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RED FLAG: Lack of Vision with Lecrae


Kait & JJ tomlin

Hey famm, we’re back with another episode in our season on red flags! We have a very special guest, Lacrae here to talk about how a lack of vision can be a red flag. We’re specifically talking about how VISION is so important, especially for MEN in dating! We loved this conversation and can’t wait to dive in with you all. 

First, let's chat about Lecrae's EPIC new Film, The Journey to Bethlehem

Before we get into today’s episode, we love talking about vision because we can plan plan plan but the Lord establishes our steps. Did you ever envision ACTING in your vision for your life?

The crazy part is that Lecrae actually got into college with acting. He wanted to be an actor before he wanted to go into music, but ended up having this entire transformation and wasn’t sure that was the path he wanted to go down. 

Lecrae actually never liked musicals but Hamiliton changed that for him! After seeing it he was like okay I’ll do one, but it has to be Hamilton level so this one is GOOD! 

Do you think it was redeeming to have an acting passion before music and then see that come to fruition years and years later through this musical? 

Lacrae said it’s wild and that he’s still trying to figure out what God is doing through it. He brought up Jeremiah 29:11, For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.” God gave that promise to people who were in pain. That’s what this has felt like for Lecrae, like God saying that there is purpose for the things you’ve gone through. It’s so amazing to Him, that God would allow him to do this, something he dreamed about as a kid. 

When it comes to vision, in dating Kait looked for a man who had vision. So, in dating can you tell someone has lack of vision?

When God says, my people parish for lack of vision, that means there are consequences for you not having vision. For us to flow through life without a vision and a plan we put our selves in jeopardy. When you don’t have vision, you’re not prepare for the undercurrent like in the ocean, to take you sideways. Nobody drifts into discipline. Nobody drifts into success. Nobody drifts into a purposeful life. It’s done through intentionality, vision, and being attentive to what’s been put in front of you. So if you don’t have that, especially as a man, How can you be a leader in a relationship? How’s it even possible? You’re supposed to lead in love, lead in humility, lead in grace, how can you lead if you have no vision yourself? 

With lack of vision can also be lack of follow through...

With lack of vision can also be lack of follow through. Something you said at NextGen retreat last month was about when people ask to be mentored by you… you send them a few things to do like books to read and then to come back to you when they have done that. And barely anyone does. Let’s talk about the lack of follow through. What would you say to men who have a lack of follow through? 

Get off social media because it’s hindering you from being who you want to be. You keep seeing pictures of the IDEAL and HIGHLIGHT reels of who you want to be but you’re not seeing the PROCESS of how they got there. OR if they’re portraying themselves as who they really are behind the scenes. You need to start DOING it. Start BECOMING that person behind the scenes. Get a value system that really isn't being given out there. We’re really caught up in a microwaveable society and that’s NOT how God works, that’s not how the kingdom is. It’s a process and a journey. Lecrae would encourage men out there to put one foot in front of the other and stop looking at the finish line being so far away and start looking at what you’re better at today than you were yesterday. How can you keep improving upon that? Before you know it, you’re going to look up and not realize how you got there and it’s because you took one step in front of the other and kept going. 

Can you really be with someone long term who has lack of vision? What are the risks?

We have to remove making these decisions in isolation. Community is so important in the dating process. So involving mutual friends in this is so important because sometimes you’re blinded to the fact this person doesn’t have vision because you’re so enamored with what you see. Bring people around you and get them involved especially people you know and trust. Do some double and triple and group dates with them and can observe. That will keep you from making bad decisions in the long term. 

If you had a young 20/30 year old guy who was struggling with vision, what would you to do encourage them? Or wake them up? Or is that just something God has to ignite?

It starts with asking them how much they want it? What’s more important to them, the moment or the movement? If there’s a guy who says the movement is more important to them then it’s like okay let’s make some small commitments now that will benefit you in the long run. That’s the only way it’s going to happen. So many of us want to make MASSIVE commitments today, but that’s not how you do it. You make small incremental changes over time. You’ll find yourself encouraged as you make it through the DAY. Build up endurance so you can do it in the long term. 

Check out Lecrae in, Journey to Bethleham, it comes out on November 10th! 

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Before the Grammys, before releasing the #1 Album in the country (Anomaly, 2014), Lecrae dropped arguable the most seminal project in his catalog, Church Clothes. XXL said, “It’s impressive how he’s able to deliver a message without being preachy”, calling Church Clothes “a prime example of the reach of hip-hop music and culture.” The people spoke even louder downloading the project 100,000 times in 48 hours. People rocked with the mixtape because it was the first time someone planted their feet simultaneously in the streets and the Church without compromising.

10 years and two more entries later (CC2, and CC3), it becomes crystal clear that while Lecrae didn’t start Christian Hip-Hop (CHH), it’s his lane. In the 10 years since Church Clothes originally dropped no one has been able to keep a consistent focus on sincere Christianity and authentic Hip-Hop representation while enjoying the heights and enduring the lows like Crae.

On Church Clothes 4, the mission remains the same for rapper, CEO, New York Times Best-Selling author, investor, and activist: To represent faith and Hip-Hop with an Unashamed edge that challenges the Church to live up to its potential and encourages the Culture to reconcile with its Savior. In this entry, Lecrae gives his listeners an opportunity to see what it looks like to reconstruct a vision of faith despite the large-scale shift toward mistrust and disillusionment with Christianity in the wake of America’s racial tensions.

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