
Today we’re joined by the incredible Lysa TerKeurst as she gets real about healing from betrayal, rebuilding trust, and finding hope in dating again after an unwanted divorce!
Introduction
Trauma, Trust, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves
Three Layers of Rebuilding Trust
The Two Extreme Responses: Overtrust and Cynical Distrust
Boards of Advisors and Community Wisdom
Hope for the Divorced, Betrayed, or Heart-Weary
Hey HOD fam! We’re diving in WITH HEART and honestly, a few tears, after an incredible conversation with one of our dream guests and Christian icons, Lysa TerKeurst. In this powerful episode, Kait Tomlin and JJ Tomlin are talking about the real, messy, and often painful journey of learning to trust again after heartbreak, betrayal, or an unwanted divorce. Whether you’ve been through these struggles yourself, you’re dating someone who has, or you just want to love your friends better, this is one you don’t want to miss! So grab a cozy drink, settle in, and let’s talk healing and hope after heartbreak.
It’s so common, after betrayal or deep hurt, to question everything—including yourself. Lysa TerKeurst lays it out so honestly: Every trauma is two parts—what happened to you, and the story you tell yourself because of it. So often, like she shares, we replay things in our minds: How did I not see this? Was it my fault? Can I trust myself again?
The reality is, it’s okay to have those thoughts. Lysa TerKeurst actually points to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane as a model—not just for enduring pain, but for naming it honestly and accepting, “I may never fully know why this happened. But God is still with me here.” Healing starts with admitting your pain, sharing your story, and refusing to gaslight yourself out of hard truths.
Learning to trust again isn’t just about meeting “the right person.” According to Lysa, it’s a journey through three interconnected relationships:
1. Rebuilding Trust with God
You might feel betrayed by God when you walk through deep heartbreak—Lysa has. She holds space for asking, “God, where were you?” But the answer she found is that God doesn’t promise us ease, but He does promise us His presence. Sometimes, what was meant to harm you is, with time, used for good—maybe not for your comfort, but for your calling.
2. Rebuilding Trust with Yourself
Gaslighting and betrayal wounds often leave us doubting our own intuition. Lysa shares that healing began when she allowed herself to see red flags, to name what she saw and heard, and to trust her own discernment again. Acknowledge “the smoke”—if you sense something’s off, it’s worth paying attention.
3. Building Trust with Others Again
Lysa unpacks that “trust is the oxygen of relationships”—without it, connection suffocates. But trust isn’t instant; it’s built over time through consistent, believable behavior. That goes both ways: Don’t ignore red flags or rush the process. Healthy trust is patient and humble, and it creates safety for both people to be themselves.
Anyone who’s been through abandonment or betrayal knows the temptation to swing wildly on the trust spectrum. JJ Tomlin and Kait Tomlin talk through what this looks like:
Both extremes are self-protection. They make sense! But the real goal is “wise discernment”—having hope while also verifying over time, and letting trustworthy people prove themselves.
One of the most underrated tools in healing and dating? A board of advisors—a circle of trusted friends or mentors who help you see clearly when you’re tempted to minimize or catastrophize. Lysa says her “personal board of directors” kept her grounded and accountable, reminding her when she started repeating unhealthy patterns. Community wisdom is for everyone, regardless of age or relationship history!
Let’s end with HOPE. If you’ve been through an unwanted divorce or deep betrayal, you are not disqualified. Your story is not over. Healthy, God-honoring love—with yourself, with God, and with others—is possible. Lysa and Chaz are living proof that redemption is real, even after decades and deep wounds.
There are safe people out there. There is healing. There is purpose beyond your pain, and there’s a future that looks different—and maybe even more beautiful—than you dreamed. Don’t settle. Don’t give up. Surround yourself with wise people, approach yourself and others with grace, and keep hoping in the God who sees every detail of your journey.
We’re so grateful for Lysa TerKeurst sharing her heart and wisdom. For more, grab her book “Surviving an Unwanted Divorce”—and check out Heart of Dating’s free dating personality quiz at heartofdating.com/quiz to dive deeper into your own story.
HOD fam, you are deeply seen, fully loved, and worthy of healthy, safe, hope-filled love—right where you are.
Lysa TerKeurst is the president and chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and the author of eight New York Times bestsellers, including I Want to Trust You, But I Don’t; Good Boundaries and Goodbyes; Forgiving What You Can’t Forget; and It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way. Lysa is now remarried. She and her husband, Chaz, enjoy life with their blended family of 7 kids and a whole crew of really fun grandkids. Connect with her at www.LysaTerKeurst.com or on social media @LysaTerKeurst.

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